I think the hardest part about having Trump voters/donors in your life is feeling like they don’t know the difference between right and wrong.
Even if it’s someone you thought you knew well, there’s like this suspicion that never really goes away. You’re pretty sure they’d have your back if things got bad. But would they?
If they turned a blind eye to the Access Hollywood tape in 2016 and voted for Trump, do they actually think that women deserve to be treated equally in our society?
If they never said a word of condemnation of the January 6th insurrection, do they really think that every person’s vote should count in America?
If they twist and dispute the most basic facts about climate science or vaccines, do they disbelieve in experts, and therefore education itself?
If they’re OK with a President who posts vile things constantly including a video of Black people as apes, are they really OK to have around your children and grandchildren?
It’s painful to say this but I’m finding that even a lifetime of actions to the contrary cannot erase the doubts introduced by this one thing.
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I have a mother-in-law whom I don’t really like (she’s from my first marriage). She and her sister in essence broke up over Trump – she hasn’t spoken to her sister in however long, since Trump’s first election. I know that’s a brash move and not always wise, but in this case my esteem for my mother-in-law rose because she broke ties with her sister. Heck, I don’t like her sister a lot more than I don’t like her. And now, whoa, that divide is even greater.
That’s a convoluted way to say that I agree with you!
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Thanks for sharing this Shelly. It’s comforting (in a sad way) to know there are so many families that deal with this.
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I’ve debated and argued and bombarded friends with facts for years to no avail. Of course they all deny those pesky things called facts… fake news dontcha know.
It’s maddening and at this point? I’m done. There’s no reasoning with the MAGA faithful, they’ve bought the con and drank the Koolaid. Our only hope is to rise up and eliminate the majority in November and impeach this moron and nullify his cabinet of sycophants.
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You’re right. There’s no reasoning with them, so if you want to keep them in your life at all, you have to avoid pretty much every subject including the weather. I’ve found that safe subjects include: cats; fashion; and documentaries about musicians. After that, I’m out of neutral topics.
Let’s hope that free and fair elections happen in November and that we can take back Congress. Dare we even dream about IMPEACHMENT. That would be amazing!
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My husband loves arguing politics, I hate it. He meets an old friend every Tuesday morning for breakfast and all they do is disagree, for 4 straight hours…. every week. How their friendship can survive Trump I don’t know.
It’s sad, but at this point I view my friends and family differently if they still support the man. It means they agree with prejudice, misogyny and intolerance … and that’s hard to overlook.
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I’m with you! It’s hard to part ways with people we were once close to. I’m sorry you’ve had to deal with it too. ☹️
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To be honest it makes me miss the days when I didn’t even know how my friends and family voted.
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Same
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Oh, boy! I’m lucky in that most of my friends are at least moderate Democrats. I do have a couple of conservative friends, but they hate Trump and voted for Harris.
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You ARE lucky Laurie! I wish I was in that situation.
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It’s one thing, but really not. To be supportive of Trump has required thousands of blind eyes, at the very least.
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Maybe that’s the core of it Stephanie. Their support of Trump just lifted the veil through which I always saw them in a sort of soft, forgiving focus.
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It’s painful. For some of us the band-aid gets ripped quickly, but the sting and treating of infection continues, maybe forever. For others, maybe it’s still ripping and one keeps trying to stick the cover-up back on not to face the gruesome reality. Either way it’s exhausting and sad, but I have love and feel strong closeness when I see those (shared) wounds.
I don’t know anyone personally, among the ‘beginning to see and change’ crowd, but I like to think I could find compassion, knowing they’d just be beginning the process. Then again, my experience with my own grandfather was in thinking that he’d changed a lot over the course of his life, shed a lot of racism, etc., then Trump appearing and all of that was not just wiped away but took my mother (who I’d always thought was not racist but of a generation more polite to elders) down with it. She’d always had a mean streak toward me for questioning things and going my own wa, but until that happened I hadn’t realized it was more of a systemic thing.
Sorry for the long response. It’s a lifetime process yet every day there are new horrors to contend with.
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Ah, and I meant to finish the thought, making this even longer…
Seeing that it’s a systemic thing means a certain hyper-vigilance and responsibility.
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Thank you so much for your very thoughtful perspective. I really do appreciate it Stephanie. I feel like I’m in this weird space where I have NO interest at all in meaningful further discussions or any additional drama. Nobody’s gonna change now. I literally just want to be polite and not fight until someone dies. (Me, Them, Trump) My husband, kids & grandchild are so much more of a priority to me. Thank GOD nobody in my own family succumbed to the MAGA cult. (I really had to guard against it with my son—a white suburban athletic boy with MAGA in his circle)
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also, I’m so very sorry for all the heartache and grief you’ve experienced from your family of origin over these issues—especially from your mother, the one who was supposed to love you best of all. I feel the same way about you and others with our “shared wounds” ❤️ ❤️❤️
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Its easy to focus on the fool king, but real damage is being done by those like Russel Voight, Brendan Carr, and all the Dominionist white supremacist Christians in non-political offices.
These Bradley foundation, Heritage Foundation true believers that beleive in theocratic dictatorship are the real enemy. Also the Republicans as a group keep Trump in power. The axeman for the spineless omega males & female Republicans in office.
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So true
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